Thanks for helping Paul, I tried this, but it didn't work. The version 1.2.2 exports hymns only in its generic *.olp format. Any newer versions did not import the data, or would not install on the new computer with an abundance of error messages. I will try to install newer versions on the old computer next (with its obvious limitations and complications), hoping to identify the version which can read our old database and export to the new formats accepted by version 3.x or 4. Trial and error ...