OpenLP 2.9.3 aka 3.0 Beta 2 OFFICIAL DISCUSSION

JohnM

@Kwadwo So it turns out that the Book name is not one of the available items in the API....But the Title has the book name in it if you use the Bible Item in the Library to create your verses. In my case there is a bit too much information....`Genesis 1:1-10 English Standard Version Anglicised (ESVUK), BibleGateway`

Open the stae.js file and go down to the line that starts with `updateSlide: function() {`

Go down through the code until you see `// use notes if available` and insert a line above this line.

type OpenLP.myBookname = slide.title;

You now have the title for every slide as the slide is used.

Now you have to decide how to use it and when to use it. As an example you may want to verify that the slide is part of a Bible verse and only get the title when it is. And you may only want the actual book name so you would have to find the first space in the slide title after the 3rd character and then only keep the left part of the title up to the blank.

I hope this helps. If you run into trouble let us know.

geoffr

OpenLP 2.9.2 aka 3.0 Beta 1 won't run on my MacOS Mojave, MacBook Pro 15" mid-2014 model. After launch, nothing but the Name in top bar next to Apple symbol, and program is "not responding".

Anyone else having success with Mojave?

Thanks

Geoff

ebowen

JohnM
@ebowen The setting in themes enables transitions between service items.
The Themes transitions settings work between slides that use the theme.
You can put single images in the service and if you enabled the transitions between service items you will see the transitions between the images. The drawback of this method is that you can't loop the images if they are loaded as single items.
Try this and see if it helps.
Create a new service with nothing in it.Create a new theme with a solid color and be sure to add transitions...I set the speed to slow to see the transition easier.Go into settings and select the images page.Change the image background to Custom ThemeSelect the theme you just created.Select the OK button to exit settings and save your changes.Drag and drop you folder of images to the serviceSend the service to the live display and see if the transitions happen.
If the transitions don't appear, start over and see if anything changed. I can't explain it, but it worked after the second try for me.

Hey John,

I finally did get the transitions to work on the portable version. It does seem a bit hard to get to work at first. How do I get the Bible to import into the portable on WIndows 10 loaded on my desktop. I have tried download, import an opensong file but none will show in the program. The file is in the data folder of the portable app.

ebowen

Trying to save a service on my thumb drive and keep getting this messag in portable 2.9. It will save on desktop but trying to make it easy to move portable app and service files.

JohnM

@ebowen The first thing I would suggest is not to put anything in the OpenLP Data directory. The data directory is not a safe directory....the system owns and manages this directory and stuff goes missing from this directory from time to time.

To import the OpenSong song you should put the file someplace on your computer, then start OpenLP from the USB drive and use the import function on the File menu to import the song. Remember to select the OpenSong file type and add the file to the importer. IF this does not work it may be a bug on the portable version.

For the service file, try to save it to the F:/ directory or to your PC documents directory...I am trying to see if it is an issue with the directory you are trying to us or if the portable unit has an issue.

Keep us posted!

ebowen

JohnM
@ebowen The first thing I would suggest is not to put anything in the OpenLP Data directory. The data directory is not a safe directory....the system owns and manages this directory and stuff goes missing from this directory from time to time.
To import the OpenSong song you should put the file someplace on your computer, then start OpenLP from the USB drive and use the import function on the File menu to import the song. Remember to select the OpenSong file type and add the file to the importer. IF this does not work it may be a bug on the portable version.
For the service file, try to save it to the F:/ directory or to your PC documents directory...I am trying to see if it is an issue with the directory you are trying to us or if the portable unit has an issue.
Keep us posted!

Hey John

The Opensong import was for the Bible. I downloaded the KJV and tried to import it. It imports but will not show up in the bible tab. It says no Bibles downloaded but it is in the data/bible folder. How can we import or download a Bible onto drive instead of online version from webdownload? I can get my imported opensong bible to pull up content if I download online Bible into data file. If I delete the 52kb file my imported Bible will not get recognized.

I tried saving to usb drive root and no go.

abo

JohnM
@abo What language were you importing and what language was OpenLP set to? Did you get an error? We need a bit more information to find the issue and correct it.

Sorry to answer so late. I am retired but even busier than when I was working.????

The same problem occurs with OpenLP in English or French. It does not seem to be related to the selected language.

An example of an imported chordpro file is attached.

There is no error reported during import.

JohnM

@ebowen Sorry for my misunderstanding. There is a bug that causes an error about no bible being loaded....If you go into the

tab of the Bible library and select a Bible, yes I know it already has a Bible selected so humor me and select a different Bible. Then go back to the search tab of the same Bible Library you should be able to find verses....at this point you can go select the Bible you want and everything should be good.....not sure if what you are seeing is the same bug, but it cant hurt to see if this fixes the issue.

ebowen

JohnM
@ebowen Sorry for my misunderstanding. There is a bug that causes an error about no bible being loaded....If you go into the options tab of the Bible library and select a Bible, yes I know it already has a Bible selected so humor me and select a different Bible. Then go back to the search tab of the same Bible Library you should be able to find verses....at this point you can go select the Bible you want and everything should be good.....not sure if what you are seeing is the same bug, but it cant hurt to see if this fixes the issue.

John,

I downloaded an opensong bible KJV and imported it into OpenLp portable. It shows but wont recognize it, I only have it loaded. I tried the option but it will not work with one Bible imported. I restarted and it still shows no chapters or verses.

cameronag

Just did my first live service with 2.9.2 yesterday. Two things I noticed.

One was that the desktop background sometimes appeared for a second or so before a video starting. Not catastrophic but distracting.

The second was the "Theme" shortcut key which, I'm sure, used to be a toggle. This time when I switched to display theme only I could only get the display back by clicking the "show presentation" icon under the "Live" window on the main display. That was embarrassing!

Clicking the icon reminds me of another outstanding issue - the tiny font (and icons) on the main, controlling screen. While the projected (extended desktop) screen is fine, after fiddling with theme settings to suit the projector in use, the text on the operator's screen is tiny except for song titles and other content. This has been a problem since moving to at least 2.4, maybe longer.

Hope these comments are useful.

NLACav

cameronag
Just did my first live service with 2.9.2 yesterday. Two things I noticed.
One was that the desktop background sometimes appeared for a second or so before a video starting. Not catastrophic but distracting.
The second was the "Theme" shortcut key which, I'm sure, used to be a toggle. This time when I switched to display theme only I could only get the display back by clicking the "show presentation" icon under the "Live" window on the main display. That was embarrassing!
Clicking the icon reminds me of another outstanding issue - the tiny font (and icons) on the main, controlling screen. While the projected (extended desktop) screen is fine, after fiddling with theme settings to suit the projector in use, the text on the operator's screen is tiny except for song titles and other content. This has been a problem since moving to at least 2.4, maybe longer.
Hope these comments are useful.

I noticed the showing desktop issue and worked around it by changing my background to solid black. would rather it didn't happen though.

ninjakiwi

@cameronag You're right that the theme, blank and desktop buttons are no longer toggle buttons. You can blame me for that change; it is to reduce confusion with how OpenLP works: You cannot overlap the different modes, it is only ever one of them (live, black, theme or desktop). All the modes have these default shortcuts:

Live - SpacebarBlack - Full stopTheme - "T"Desktop - "D" or Escape

So to get the display back, you can hit the spacebar. (Works from any mode)

Perhaps it may take a little getting used to, but I think it's better for a shortcut to not depend on the state of OpenLP. With this setup, spacebar will always show the display, and "." will always hide it.

I know the interface isn't huge, but I wouldn't call it tiny. Perhaps we could add a interface scale option in the settings in the future... Could you send a screenshot just to check it's normal?

ninjakiwi

@cameronag @NLACav

I can seem to replicate your showing desktop issue. Could you find out if the "Transition between service items" option under `Settings -> Themes -> Universal Settings` is enabled? And after switching it, do you still get the issue?

NLACav

ninjakiwi
@cameronag @NLACav
I can seem to replicate your showing desktop issue. Could you find out if the "Transition between service items" option under `Settings -> Themes -> Universal Settings` is enabled? And after switching it, do you still get the issue?

I have tried with that option both on and off. Still get the desktop for a split second. Before the latest windows update it was a longer time (~1-1.25 secs vs ~0.75 secs now) but is now usable. I can probably get a video of the issue if needed as we live stream and I have a capture card for the lyrics computer. I posted a log earlier in this thread that I pulled when it was doing the issue.

NLACav

NLACav
https://forums.openlp.org/discussion/comment/14248#Comment_14248
I have tried with that option both on and off. Still get the desktop for a split second. Before the latest windows update it was a longer time (~1-1.25 secs vs ~0.75 secs now) but is now usable. I can probably get a video of the issue if needed as we live stream and I have a capture card for the lyrics computer. I posted a log earlier in this thread that I pulled when it was doing the issue.

Just a heads up - after the latest driver/windows updates it seems to work as intended without the desktop showing when we don't want it.

michimartini

michaelbishop
Super excited about the new version - thank you!
Beta 1 (OS: KDE Neon 5.20)
I tried out the video backgrounds feature by copying an existing theme (Blue Burst) to a new theme and adding a video background (small mp4) instead of an image background and then setting the new theme as the global default. I'm using a machine with a single monitor (haven't had a chance to try on our dual monitor setup at church) Here's what happens:
The live window shows the text of the song, but only a plain black background.When I choose to "View the Presentation" the video background plays but the text of the song does not display at all.The video background (and in fact any video file whether displayed as a theme background or standalone set item) all flicker continuously. I don't have this problem playing the same files directly through VLC. Have tried installing additional codecs, but still no joy.
Here's the log:
qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 5795, resource id: 14681369, major code: 40 (TranslateCoords), minor code: 0
libva info: VA-API version 1.7.0
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iHD_drv_video.so
libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_7
libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iHD_drv_video.so init failed
libva info: va_openDriver() returns 1
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_drv_video.so
libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_6
libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
[00007f4f94c310b0] avcodec decoder: Using Intel i965 driver for Intel(R) Sandybridge Desktop - 2.4.0 for hardware decoding
qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 17283, resource id: 14681397, major code: 40 (TranslateCoords), m
inor code: 0
[h264 @ 0x7f4f94c47200] get_buffer() failed
[h264 @ 0x7f4f94c47200] thread_get_buffer() failed
[h264 @ 0x7f4f94c47200] decode_slice_header error
[h264 @ 0x7f4f94c47200] no frame!
qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 17656, resource id: 14681413, major code: 40 (TranslateCoords), minor code: 0
I'm going to assume this is hardware-related and keep digging ...
Edit: Installed Kubuntu 20.10 instead and the error messages above disappear, but the flickering and other behaviour remains

I encountered the flickering video too. Although I would not call it flickering, rather it is flashing white about 3 times a second irregularly. Looks like openlp and the window manager are fighting over who gets to be on top. I got rid of that by enabling "override window manager" in the configuration widget.

I am on Ubuntu 20.04, using gnome3.

michimartini

Here is how i got video backgrounds to work properly on Ubuntu 20.04 (Gnome 3):

check "Bypass X11 window manager" in settings/Advanced (gets rid of white flashing)encode video to motion jpeg using ffmpeg (without this the video stops after 2 loops)

Otherwise: Great progress. I like that the performance of web clients now is usable, in 2.4 I saw latencies of 10 seconds over a stable wifi connection. Also the deuglyfication of the icon set is commendable.

ebowen

I am still having problems getting the transitions to work consistently in Open LP portable , windows 10 with a folder of images playing in a loop. I have set up custom theme with transitions and it just cuts to next slide. Im guessing this is bug. Does this work properly in desktop windows 10 version? Anyone using windows tried this?

Chippie

Is anyone else using Bitfocus Companion with OpenLP?

We have companion set up doing various things, and use the OpenLP plugin on it which gives control over blank/theme/desktop etc from buttons on our streamdecks.

I tried the 2.9.2 beta, and as soon as OpenLP is running it crashes Companion - I've replicated this on two different setups.

Just wondering how to start on getting this resolved, as want to help out! I know that companion uses the http api - has that changed in 2.9.2?

JohnM

@Chippie The Http API did change and the Beta is missing parts of the original API. For backward compatibility the Original API has been worked on, but until the next Beta release you may have issues using the original SPI. The new API is documented on the OpenLP Wiki

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